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# Posted on: 26-Oct-2006 13:56:49.  
Dear All,

I would like to inform everybody that we have uploaded new videos on how to setup a typical LLBL & JCL development environment.

These videos include setting up the folders, helper libraries and the DAL, in addition to setting up the JCL solution.

Current videos include;
•    Video 1: Build JCL and its libraries
•    Video 2: Setup folders and LLBL project
•    Video 3: Build the DAL

Please visit the JCL website at http://www.jclframework.net and have a look for yourself. The videos are under the ‘Tutorials’ menu.

New videos will be uploaded periodically.

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The JCL Team
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# Posted on: 26-Oct-2006 15:07:38.  
Great! Regular Smiley

I'll try to make some time to write a blogpost about jcl tomorrow (friday) so you'll get some more exposure through weblogs.asp.net Wink


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# Posted on: 26-Oct-2006 23:51:29.  
Well, I watched these videos. You go pretty fast in them... but I think I followed em.

My first question, what kind of PC do you have? Man it is FAST? Or, did you just edit out all the wait time?

My second question. I guess the point of the JCL is that you are replacing the DAL of CSLA with LLBLGen... so, LLBLGen is strictly your DAL layer and CSLA is your BL Layer? I assume you have created something to popualte the CSLA objects/collections from the LLBLGen entities/collections?

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# Posted on: 27-Oct-2006 17:36:41.  
pilotboba wrote:
Well, I watched these videos. You go pretty fast in them... but I think I followed em.

My first question, what kind of PC do you have? Man it is FAST? Or, did you just edit out all the wait time?

Funny thing is I am not even using a real PC. I did everything inside a VMWare virtual PC because I wanted a clean windows installation to do the videos and to assure that all would work on a PC other than the one I am using for development.

pilotboba wrote:
My second question. I guess the point of the JCL is that you are replacing the DAL of CSLA with LLBLGen... so, LLBLGen is strictly your DAL layer and CSLA is your BL Layer? I assume you have created something to popualte the CSLA objects/collections from the LLBLGen entities/collections?

The general design philosophy of JCL is to use CSLA’s manager style BL classes and also to use CSLA’s DataPortal design for all data-access. The actual data access code is of course done using pure LLBL code. Pure LLBL entities are used as Data Transfer Objects between the UI and a JCL BL class.
A typical JCL2 BL class should manage one or more LLBL entities. The functionality of such a class is totally at the hands of the BL architect but keeping in mind that “objects are defined by behavior and NOT by data”.
JCL2 validator classes extend those of LLBLv2 by marrying in CSLA’s validation rules engine. CSLA’s validation rules and the IsValid property help in checking “BeforeSave” rules while LLBL2’s other methods (afterSave, BeforeDelete, AfterLoad) help in checking rules at those respective events.
I will be doing a more detailed and formal writing about the design of JCL2.0 after adding some more videos to the site.


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# Posted on: 27-Oct-2006 18:09:08.  
I can't download video 1 and 2, I always get video 3. I also find this DNN gui a little confusing, I couldn't find the download link until I saw it a the far right! Regular Smiley.
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# Posted on: 27-Oct-2006 19:19:07.  
Can't download any at all... but the binary file I get is three times the same.


 
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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 09:45:36.  
Otis wrote:
Great! Regular Smiley

I'll try to make some time to write a blogpost about jcl tomorrow (friday) so you'll get some more exposure through weblogs.asp.net Wink


Thank you very much for your support!! Laugh


Otis wrote:
I can't download video 1 and 2, I always get video 3. I also find this DNN gui a little confusing, I couldn't find the download link until I saw it a the far right! Regular Smiley


Kris wrote:
Can't download any at all... but the binary file I get is three times the same.


I'll look into this immediately. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 10:06:02.  
Ok, please let me know when the video's are up again so I can write about it Regular Smiley

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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 11:01:48.  
I've discovered the reason for your dilemma. What I did was increase the cache setting for the entire site. I did this to allow the site to work faster, however, this seems to have backfired. The first video you download will be cached and downloaded again and again. Confused

I haven't solved this problem yet, but a simple workaround would be to close the browser and reopen the site after each download.

I'm working on the problem as we speak. Please be patient. Regular Smiley
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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 14:05:37.  
'Video 4 - Building the BL' has been uploaded.

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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 21:05:00.  
All I see at the home page (http://www.jclframework.net) is "This Web Site is Coming Soon". Are you in the middle of changing things around perhaps? I'd love to see the videos when they are available again.
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# Posted on: 28-Oct-2006 21:14:07.  
We're truly very sorry for any inconvenience. We've just added a dedicated IP address to our website in order to give users a better experience when it comes to performance.

I was NOT informed by my hosting provider that this would happen! Confused

I hope we'd be online again within the next 24 hours, as I've been promised.

Please be patient and stay tuned. Laugh


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# Posted on: 29-Oct-2006 18:50:49.  
No worries. Just let us know when it's up again.
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# Posted on: 30-Oct-2006 15:18:35.  
Laugh It is my pleasure to inform y'all that the JCL website is up again. NO thanks to GoDaddy and their support team!!!

As EVERYBODY always preaches, always keep a backup!! Embarassed


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# Posted on: 30-Oct-2006 15:55:25.  
Good it's back up Regular Smiley

About the video's. When I click on the download link I get:
1-Build
as the filename. What's the filename exactly? As the extension is missing.
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# Posted on: 30-Oct-2006 16:16:04.  
Otis wrote:
Good it's back up Regular Smiley

About the video's. When I click on the download link I get:
1-Build
as the filename. What's the filename exactly? As the extension is missing.

Got that one also last week, for each of them.



 
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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 08:40:14.  
The extension is ZIP. The zip contains an EXE. I wonder why that's happening. I'll look into it and try to fix it if possible.
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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 09:18:15.  
Bashar, one of the possibilities causing this (in DNN) could be that your uploaded files contain spaces. If so replace the spaces by _ or %20.




 
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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 09:49:18.  
Bashar wrote:
The extension is ZIP. The zip contains an EXE. I wonder why that's happening. I'll look into it and try to fix it if possible.

A video which is an exe? Why not avi or wmv ? .exe's are hardly trusted by a lot of people especially if it's a video.
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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 10:11:00.  
Kris wrote:
Bashar, one of the possibilities causing this (in DNN) could be that your uploaded files contain spaces. If so replace the spaces by _ or %20.

That's a valid point, although I might not be able to fix it for the previous videos and downloads, I'll make sure future ones do.

Otis wrote:
A video which is an exe? Why not avi or wmv ? .exe's are hardly trusted by a lot of people especially if it's a video.

You're absolutely right, but, the software we're using to create the videos, and for some unknown reason, would create a file 4gigs Confused in size if the output is in AVI format.

Nonetheless, we'll look into it and try to find a solution. Regular Smiley


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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 11:58:52.  
Would a SWF file do?

I mean, if we provide an HTML file that runs a SWF file, both zipped, would that be ok?
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# Posted on: 31-Oct-2006 12:53:26.  
Similar to our video's for example? (we also provide our video's as flash). That would do Regular Smiley

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