Based on comments by Frans etc on this forum I have installed the DevArt MySQL driver. When I try to run my very first call to the dbl to get a TypedList it returns an error " Table mysql.pr_pay_type doesn't exist" - the table is there and when I execute the SQL stmt in a db frontend it works fine. Have you seen similar issues w the DevArt driver? Should I use a different one. The source of the exception is Devart.Data.MySql