Does anyone know how I can switch on cntrl-A behavior in the wingrid of Infragistics? Apparently it doesn't seem there. I can add a lame button to mimic the behavior but I don't buy controls to do extra work.

After working for a month or so with the Vol.1 controls I can say that overall they work, but getting there is a pain. If you have the ability to choose between control suites, skip Infragisitcs, it's not worth the money.

Especially when you consider that they do not mention if a new upgrade is released. I purchased the controls 1.5 month ago. TOday they released vol.2. No word of that when I purchased vol 1. I CAN'T upgrade to vol.2, which makes my vol.1. already legacy code.

If I had the time I would reverse the inclusion of Infragistics controls, but for the time being they have to be included as release of the new gui updates is near.

Have you tried Xceed's grid? I've had great success with it. Very flexible and customizable. Extensible enough that I was able to write custom cell editors without too much trouble (like making a custom 'drop-down' list for cells in a column but making it so only certain cells in the column had the drop-down based on data in other cells in the row.)

Otis wrote:

Does anyone know how I can switch on cntrl-A behavior in the wingrid of Infragistics?

try:

    Private Sub grdGroups_KeyDown(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.KeyEventArgs) Handles grdGroups.KeyDown
        Static ctrl As Boolean
        Dim i As Integer

        If e.KeyCode = Keys.ControlKey Then
            ctrl = True
            Exit Sub
        End If

        If e.KeyCode = Keys.A And ctrl Then
            For i = 0 To grdGroups.Rows.Count - 1
                grdGroups.Rows(i).Selected = True
            Next
        End If

        ctrl = False
    End Sub

I know, it should have been built in

Thanks Fishy I'll give it a try.

Trig: no I haven't. The irony is that Janus systems gave us a license to their grid, which I find pretty ok, and because I'm an MVP I received a license for DevExpress controls as well, a day after we bought a license to the Infragistics' controls (for the tab controls btw)

Ah well... Life's all about choices .

Otis wrote:

and because I'm an MVP I received a license for DevExpress controls as well

Not used their webforms controls but we've had a lot of problems with their aspx grid, although i must admit their support guys have been very good.

netclectic wrote:

Otis wrote:

and because I'm an MVP I received a license for DevExpress controls as well

Not used their webforms controls but we've had a lot of problems with their aspx grid, although i must admit their support guys have been very good.

Their stuff seems to be ok indeed, although coderush is falling apart with a rather large file or project. (tested it with a project with 600 entities oopppsssss)

netclectic wrote:

Otis wrote:

and because I'm an MVP I received a license for DevExpress controls as well

Not used their webforms controls but we've had a lot of problems with their aspx grid, although i must admit their support guys have been very good.

I have some problems with DevEx grids also....but it seems from any control I have used or form what I have heard from others is that most controls give some problems.

The one thing is Devexpress attempts to resolve issues. My biggest complaint with DevExpress is their lack of samples and design for people that do not use design time. All of my grids are generated from code behind.

The main issues I have had are 1. Default behavior of focused row, no way to unfocused row via client side script (at least I have not figure out how to) 2. Cannot alter cell contents using Iten_Created or Item_DataBound. I have a work around for this using template columns but it is not pretty 3. I could not get the styles working correctly via style sheets...now this could be a lack of my understanding but my work around is to apply styles directly to the elements

Just curios as to the issues you had. If you want me to elaborate on my issues I can.

bert

Otis wrote:

netclectic wrote:

Otis wrote:

and because I'm an MVP I received a license for DevExpress controls as well

Not used their webforms controls but we've had a lot of problems with their aspx grid, although i must admit their support guys have been very good.

Their stuff seems to be ok indeed, although coderush is falling apart with a rather large file or project. (tested it with a project with 600 entities oopppsssss)

I really hope telerik decides to build a web grid... I've got a license for just about every one of their products now. Those guys are great.

Trig wrote:

Their stuff seems to be ok indeed, although coderush is falling apart with a rather large file or project. (tested it with a project with 600 entities oopppsssss)

I really hope telerik decides to build a web grid... I've got a license for just about every one of their products now. Those guys are great.

I've been using llblgen + infragistics vol 2 + DotNetNuke 2 for the past month and so far I haven't had any problems other than learning how to properly use the tools. Though sometimes learning the tools takes just as long as it would take to roll my own.

my .02...

bertcord wrote:

My biggest complaint with DevExpress is their lack of samples and design for people that do not use design time. All of my grids are generated from code behind.

Same here, all our grids are generated dynamically.

bertcord wrote:

The main issues I have had are 1. Default behavior of focused row, no way to unfocused row via client side script (at least I have not figure out how to) 2. Cannot alter cell contents using Iten_Created or Item_DataBound. I have a work around for this using template columns but it is not pretty 3. I could not get the styles working correctly via style sheets...now this could be a lack of my understanding but my work around is to apply styles directly to the elements

1. Haven't come across that one (yet), i'll make a note of though cos we're about to start doing the client side bits for the grid.

2. Not tried that, we use a nice generic method for databinding all our controls. Although, we had to do a bit of jiggery pokery to handle the grid. We've had to use template columns which as you say is not pretty but they are powerful and enable us to use any of our custom controls for editing in the grid.

3. We've had a lot of problems with styles, specifically with sizing of the grid. Our grids have to fit in a very specific defined size and trying to get the grid to adhere to the sizes specificed has been a nightmare.

Other problems we encountered include:

1. problems with grid being parented in a naming container.
2. scrollbars & paging
3. it has to be databound before you can get the changed data out of the editing controls (which just seems wrong).

So far we've manage to resolve all the problems we've encountered thanks to the support guys. A couple of them were real bugs which should be sorted in a future release (if not already).

Hi Ots

Have you sorted this problem out? Is there a secret 3 key press double mouse click thing, that i need to know about?

Using release June 28 - The selection box Grid for SProcs and Entities does not have Cntrl-A option - there is also no button. As i mentioned before we have 1800 + sprocs - not all of them are in the DAL and we are adding them as needed. The button on the screen says 'Toggle selected rows' - ofcourse only 1 is selected.

Okay found the secret keys - Only way to select all is Shift click top & buttom. Not very nice peter

I just purchased the Netadvantage suite volume 2, actually i got a subscription...but thats the version i am using. So far, i am VERY impressed by them, but i have to admit i have only used 3 controls so far and all of them are asp.net (webtree, webgrid, and webmenu). You cant beat what you get for the money, IMHO

I've been using llblgen + infragistics vol 2 + DotNetNuke 2 for the past month and so far I haven't had any problems other than learning how to properly use the tools. Though sometimes learning the tools takes just as long as it would take to roll my own.

I hear ya on that one, i spent at least an hour last night trying to figure out how the hell to change the text on the buttons in my button column.

Hi Otis,

Didn't this code work?

 Private Sub grdGroups_KeyDown(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.KeyEventArgs) Handles grdGroups.KeyDown
Static ctrl As Boolean
Dim i As Integer

If e.KeyCode = Keys.ControlKey Then
ctrl = True
Exit Sub
End If

If e.KeyCode = Keys.A And ctrl Then
For i = 0 To grdGroups.Rows.Count - 1
grdGroups.Rows(i).Selected = True
Next
End If

ctrl = False
End Sub

wayne wrote:

Hi Ots

Have you sorted this problem out? Is there a secret 3 key press double mouse click thing, that i need to know about?

Official response from Infragistics: not supported, please add a feature request.

Well, I want to but I'll never benefit from it because upgrades are only for subscribers.

Using release June 28 - The selection box Grid for SProcs and Entities does not have Cntrl-A option - there is also no button. As i mentioned before we have 1800 + sprocs - not all of them are in the DAL and we are adding them as needed. The button on the screen says 'Toggle selected rows' - ofcourse only 1 is selected.

Select first, select last while holding shift.

Okay found the secret keys - Only way to select all is Shift click top & buttom. Not very nice peter

It's the best I can do, sorry.

Fishy wrote:

Hi Otis,

Didn't this code work?

 Private Sub grdGroups_KeyDown(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.KeyEventArgs) Handles grdGroups.KeyDown
Static ctrl As Boolean
Dim i As Integer

If e.KeyCode = Keys.ControlKey Then
ctrl = True
Exit Sub
End If

If e.KeyCode = Keys.A And ctrl Then
For i = 0 To grdGroups.Rows.Count - 1
grdGroups.Rows(i).Selected = True
Next
End If

ctrl = False
End Sub

It did, but this had a serious problem: it only worked in some situations, not all situations did work... (related to focus). So I decided not to use this workaround...

Perhaps changing "ctrl" variable to public on the form and setting it to false on the grids lostfocus/gotfocus events.

It's the best I can do, sorry.

What about a button that inverts your selection?

So if none are selected you press it - and da! da! all rows are selected...press it again and all are unselected....select the ones you dont want and press button - then all that you wanted will be selected.

Its a bit of a workaround but you can remove the button once you get a proper grid with Cntrl-A support.

The problem is the routine which does the actual selection. It has to loop through all the rows, and with f.e. 1000 procs that will take a while. Shift click will be more efficient.

Trig wrote:

Have you tried Xceed's grid?

If I may digress a bit... I've just downloaded these Xceed components and I'm very impressed. The data grid seems to work very well with LLBL Gen. And the price is reasonable too, much lower than other suites, about $350 includes the grid plus menus, toolbars, etc. Anyone else using these components? I'm curious if other people have any experience with them. Thanks...